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Do you think using Spritecraft and/or GIMP is "cheating"?

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Mr.Monkey:
I see a few misunderstandings here about GIMP and spritecraft.

First of all, using spritecraft for classic is worthless. It does not have the correct wool blocks and some other blocks aren't the same either. So there is no reason why anyone would use it, except if they're too lazy to figure out how to use gimp or do it by eye.

GIMP is in essence the same as paint, it just provides some tools. Just using GIMP to view the picture you're spriting isn't bad. I think what Wyboth calls cheating is using optimizers on the images, such as colour reduction and dithering. These can be seen as cheating, because they do take lots of work away and make the picture lots more detailed than you could ever do yourself. But, to be honest, we are the only ones that use water and leaves in our sprites, just because they are very hard to work with. I would challenge anyone to try make even 1 square of the snake in art, or the coat of Notch in art1, without cheating, and see how much detail you can get out of it. With my GIMP floor palette, there are 432 colours to choose from, each with their own combination of blocks. Your eyes can't even see the difference unless you put them right next to each other, but in the big picture, it does make a difference.

Wyboth:

--- Quote from: Mr.Monkey on August 05, 2012, 02:09:18 am ---I see a few misunderstandings here about GIMP and spritecraft.

First of all, using spritecraft for classic is worthless. It does not have the correct wool blocks and some other blocks aren't the same either. So there is no reason why anyone would use it, except if they're too lazy to figure out how to use gimp or do it by eye.

GIMP is in essence the same as paint, it just provides some tools. Just using GIMP to view the picture you're spriting isn't bad. I think what Wyboth calls cheating is using optimizers on the images, such as colour reduction and dithering. These can be seen as cheating, because they do take lots of work away and make the picture lots more detailed than you could ever do yourself. But, to be honest, we are the only ones that use water and leaves in our sprites, just because they are very hard to work with. I would challenge anyone to try make even 1 square of the snake in art, or the coat of Notch in art1, without cheating, and see how much detail you can get out of it. With my GIMP floor palette, there are 432 colours to choose from, each with their own combination of blocks. Your eyes can't even see the difference unless you put them right next to each other, but in the big picture, it does make a difference.

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I see your point about GIMP, and I do consider using optimizers to be cheating. If the rest of GIMP is the same as paint, then just use paint instead to avoid the whole cheating thing altogether. Your point about the water and leaves is irrelevant. Yes, I recognize the talent required to use them, but if the other 90% of the sprite was optimized, then I still consider it cheated.



I forgot to say earlier that cheating is just an opinion that varies from person to person, so we're not going to set any laws that 'cheating is this,' because it's just an opinion. Keep that in mind.

iGenerator:
So three people think its "cheating" good for them it doesn't matter as long as it looks cool I do not care how it was made or if the person got assistance making it in anyway.

arsenic_shark:
That fact is people dont get ranked for sprites so even if they do "cheat" they gain nothing.

Wyboth:

--- Quote from: arsenic_shark on August 05, 2012, 05:31:05 am ---That fact is people dont get ranked for sprites so even if they do "cheat" they gain nothing.



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Mr. Monkey got raked for sprites, and I plan to so as well.

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