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Fix the Lottery
ViperZeroOne:
Ok, let's set aside the algorithmic discussion for a minute because that's so WAY off from effecting the outcome of the lotto draw that it's not even worth mentioning. It IS random, and it IS fair, because each consecutive draw doesn't include the winning ticket from the last draw, and a whole new random draw is done. Plain and simple.
So, those of you who aren't winning, just suck it up and make the odds better in your favor. Either find a four leaf clover, hang a horseshoe, or do something that'll improve your luck cause the odds of winning are only as good as the number of tickets you buy.
...and if you want to talk about algorithmic randomizations, even Turing had a way to randomize the algorithm that selects the random number for it's random selections, which made it's random selections 100% random. Do you honestly think Opti wouldn't make the draws random in the same method?
Come on people, get real.
tiggy26668:
--- Quote from: ViperZeroOne on July 22, 2012, 01:52:34 am ---Ok, let's set aside the algorithmic discussion for a minute because that's so WAY off from effecting the outcome of the lotto draw that it's not even worth mentioning. It IS random, and it IS fair, because each consecutive draw doesn't include the winning ticket from the last draw, and a whole new random draw is done. Plain and simple.
So, those of you who aren't winning, just suck it up and make the odds better in your favor. Either find a four leaf clover, hang a horseshoe, or do something that'll improve your luck cause the odds of winning are only as good as the number of tickets you buy.
--- End quote ---
viper it effects the outcome big time if that's the algorithm being used..... it means that you would be paying for a ticket that has a 0% chance to be drawn.... not a .00000001% chance, a 0% chance. it's tossing your money in the trash for false hope.
ViperZeroOne:
--- Quote from: tiggy26668 on July 22, 2012, 01:55:50 am ---
--- Quote from: ViperZeroOne on July 22, 2012, 01:52:34 am ---Ok, let's set aside the algorithmic discussion for a minute because that's so WAY off from effecting the outcome of the lotto draw that it's not even worth mentioning. It IS random, and it IS fair, because each consecutive draw doesn't include the winning ticket from the last draw, and a whole new random draw is done. Plain and simple.
So, those of you who aren't winning, just suck it up and make the odds better in your favor. Either find a four leaf clover, hang a horseshoe, or do something that'll improve your luck cause the odds of winning are only as good as the number of tickets you buy.
--- End quote ---
viper it effects the outcome big time if that's the algorithm being used..... it means that you would be paying for a ticket that has a 0% chance to be drawn.... not a .00000001% chance, a 0% chance. it's tossing your money in the trash for false hope.
--- End quote ---
...and has Opti come on here himself and said that's the algorithm being used? No. The person who posted the code is Chief149, who has no access to the server back-end and no idea what changes Opti might have made to improve the lottery plugin. So what's the debate about?!
Opti has come on and said that my explanation (WAY BACK) is the correct one. That each draw is completely random, and your odds of winning are based solely on the number of tickets in your hand. You're throwing around facts and figures that have no basis in this server's reality. So once again, what's the debate about?
tiggy26668:
--- Quote from: ViperZeroOne on July 22, 2012, 01:58:41 am ---
--- Quote from: tiggy26668 on July 22, 2012, 01:55:50 am ---
--- Quote from: ViperZeroOne on July 22, 2012, 01:52:34 am ---Ok, let's set aside the algorithmic discussion for a minute because that's so WAY off from effecting the outcome of the lotto draw that it's not even worth mentioning. It IS random, and it IS fair, because each consecutive draw doesn't include the winning ticket from the last draw, and a whole new random draw is done. Plain and simple.
So, those of you who aren't winning, just suck it up and make the odds better in your favor. Either find a four leaf clover, hang a horseshoe, or do something that'll improve your luck cause the odds of winning are only as good as the number of tickets you buy.
--- End quote ---
viper it effects the outcome big time if that's the algorithm being used..... it means that you would be paying for a ticket that has a 0% chance to be drawn.... not a .00000001% chance, a 0% chance. it's tossing your money in the trash for false hope.
--- End quote ---
...and has Opti come on here himself and said that's the algorithm being used? No. So what's the debate about?! He has come on and said that my explanation (WAY BACK) is the correct one. That each draw is completely random, and your odds of winning are based solely on the number of tickets in your hand. So once again, what's the debate about?
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i suppose i would just love to know the algorithm being used, so that i might test it like i did that one, and ease my conscious knowing that it wont skip numbers randomly, and so that i could assure myself that the chances of each ticket being drawn really is fair to an acceptable degree.... from what I've experienced since the lotto was implemented it appears to be quite unfair so I apologize for being concerned for myself and everyone else who feels cheated.....
ViperZeroOne:
Concern is fine, but when the person who actually modified and implemented the code (Optical) says nothing is wrong with it, then nothing is wrong with it. With all the coding repairs he's already done on this server, I think we can trust that he's fixed a randomized number.
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