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Discussion forum => Legacy => Archives => Server News => Topic started by: optical on January 01, 2012, 10:49:19 pm
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Hi,
As of today, the 1.8 SMP server is now offline, and won't be coming back up.
The map download will be made available shortly!
We are working hard on the 1.0.0 update, and it should be ready in the coming week or two, depending on the level of polish we put on before making it public.
The new server will have a much, much larger map, economy system, a market, protection stones (personal zones), 4 starting warp villages - with more to come as we expand, new ranks, tiered staff system (mod/op/admin/owner), vote rewards (in progress) and more!
Feel free to post questions/comments/suggestions here about the upcoming 1.0.0 server.
Cheers,
Optical.
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So i seen.
And yaay :D << with the progress and big bada boom new map :)
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How does the ranking system work?
will it be ingame ranking or will you need to apply on the forums?
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How does the ranking system work?
will it be ingame ranking or will you need to apply on the forums?
They haven't all been decided upon yet.
Member rank will simply be acquired by signing up on the forums.
Trusted will most likely be in game only.
More rank information will come out once its finalized.
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How does the ranking system work?
will it be ingame ranking or will you need to apply on the forums?
They haven't all been decided upon yet.
Member rank will simply be acquired by signing up on the forums.
Trusted will most likely be in game only.
More rank information will come out once its finalized.
I was once on server (WoM realms) and they have a system where you get your own world, in our case it would be a zone. To get ranked up you had to get people to /vote when in your world if they liked it. If you got so many in a certain amount of time you get ranked up.
Could this be an option, or is it not possible?
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This seems awesome! I can't wait until it's up! :D
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The only rank you can apply for on the forum is moderator as of right now.
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How does the ranking system work?
will it be ingame ranking or will you need to apply on the forums?
They haven't all been decided upon yet.
Member rank will simply be acquired by signing up on the forums.
Trusted will most likely be in game only.
More rank information will come out once its finalized.
I was once on server (WoM realms) and they have a system where you get your own world, in our case it would be a zone. To get ranked up you had to get people to /vote when in your world if they liked it. If you got so many in a certain amount of time you get ranked up.
Could this be an option, or is it not possible?
Im not sure if that'd work so well on SMP, but we'll consider it.
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How does the ranking system work?
will it be ingame ranking or will you need to apply on the forums?
They haven't all been decided upon yet.
Member rank will simply be acquired by signing up on the forums.
Trusted will most likely be in game only.
More rank information will come out once its finalized.
I was once on server (WoM realms) and they have a system where you get your own world, in our case it would be a zone. To get ranked up you had to get people to /vote when in your world if they liked it. If you got so many in a certain amount of time you get ranked up.
Could this be an option, or is it not possible?
That is classic, where it works fine, but I doubt that would work in smp. People would have no reason to visit your world, it disencourages community etc.
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Awesome! cant wait to play on the server!
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Sounds great!
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Yay! This will be AWESOME.
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How does the ranking system work?
will it be ingame ranking or will you need to apply on the forums?
They haven't all been decided upon yet.
Member rank will simply be acquired by signing up on the forums.
Trusted will most likely be in game only.
More rank information will come out once its finalized.
I was once on server (WoM realms) and they have a system where you get your own world, in our case it would be a zone. To get ranked up you had to get people to /vote when in your world if they liked it. If you got so many in a certain amount of time you get ranked up.
Could this be an option, or is it not possible?
That is classic, where it works fine, but I doubt that would work in smp. People would have no reason to visit your world, it disencourages community etc.
You have to beg people to join your world to look at it.
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We are working hard on the 1.0.0 update, and it should be ready in the coming week or two, depending on the level of polish we put on before making it public.
The new server will have a much, much larger map, economy system, a market, protection stones (personal zones), 4 starting warp villages - with more to come as we expand, new ranks, tiered staff system (mod/op/admin/owner), vote rewards (in progress) and more!
Well, this is awesome. It's good to see progress being done here :)
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omg cannot wait!!!!!!!!
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The only rank you can apply for on the forum is moderator as of right now.
uh, i dont see it, anywhere.
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Good to see the server is being worked on, can't wait til it's online!
I have a suggestion: Quests - You get rewards for collecting a certain item. For example:
Quest: Obtain 10 Fish.
Reward: 10 Iron Ingots.
This doesn't have to be complicated at all, just a simple 'collect' and 'recieve' system.
I've looked around on bukkit and I've only been able to find 1 pluggin that would work with this. It's a plugin that allows you to view the quests, and once you get the right amount of an item for a quest, a message displays saying you have completed a quest.
So far there is no plugin I can find that has a command based 'trading' system. By that I mean if you were to have obtained 10 fish, and you wanted your reward you can not simply type (for example) /questreward and get your reward automatically, which then means the reward must be manually given to you. Unless a plugin can be found to do this.
Just a suggestion, I have this on my server, and everyone seems to enjoy it.
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i cant wait for the survival server :) maybe you could also release an official opticraft texture pack for it :)
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The only rank you can apply for on the forum is moderator as of right now.
uh, i dont see it, anywhere.
As of now during development.
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Yay a fresh start :D
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Yay a fresh start :D
Weren't you banned?
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Yay a fresh start :D
Weren't you banned?
Yes but our new banning system doesn't carry over bans so everyone gets a fresh start.
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Yay a fresh start :D
Weren't you banned?
Yes but our new banning system doesn't carry over bans so everyone gets a fresh start.
Right.
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Yay a fresh start :D
Weren't you banned?
Yes but our new banning system doesn't carry over bans so everyone gets a fresh start.
Urg.
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Yay a fresh start :D
Weren't you banned?
Yes but our new banning system doesn't carry over bans so everyone gets a fresh start.
Urg.
For how much better this banning system is now, it is worth the trade off.
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When you say there will be a market does this mean the chestshop pluggin, and if so will all ranks be able to make there own shops, and will there be items we can sell that arnt available in the market, so we can have a supply and demand type of thing going?
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Yay a fresh start :D
Weren't you banned?
Yes but our new banning system doesn't carry over bans so everyone gets a fresh start.
Urg.
For how much better this banning system is now, it is worth the trade off.
no i mean the people who were banned can come back...like Crimson.
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When you say there will be a market does this mean the chestshop pluggin, and if so will all ranks be able to make there own shops, and will there be items we can sell that arnt available in the market, so we can have a supply and demand type of thing going?
By market we mean you can sell and buy items from the server. Only basic blocks will be sold by the server, we are exploring possibilities for user shops but that most likely wont come until the server has been up and running for a while. Blocks will be sold at a MUCH higher price than the server will pay you for those blocks. Example: Say you sell a stack of stone to the server you might get $20 but a stack of stone will cost $50. (prices are just made up in this example)
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When you say there will be a market does this mean the chestshop pluggin, and if so will all ranks be able to make there own shops, and will there be items we can sell that arnt available in the market, so we can have a supply and demand type of thing going?
By market we mean you can sell and buy items from the server. Only basic blocks will be sold by the server, we are exploring possibilities for user shops but that most likely wont come until the server has been up and running for a while. Blocks will be sold at a MUCH higher price than the server will pay you for those blocks. Example: Say you sell a stack of stone to the server you might get $20 but a stack of stone will cost $50. (prices are just made up in this example)
Will we be able to pay other players?
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When you say there will be a market does this mean the chestshop pluggin, and if so will all ranks be able to make there own shops, and will there be items we can sell that arnt available in the market, so we can have a supply and demand type of thing going?
By market we mean you can sell and buy items from the server. Only basic blocks will be sold by the server, we are exploring possibilities for user shops but that most likely wont come until the server has been up and running for a while. Blocks will be sold at a MUCH higher price than the server will pay you for those blocks. Example: Say you sell a stack of stone to the server you might get $20 but a stack of stone will cost $50. (prices are just made up in this example)
Will we be able to pay other players?
Yes but there is no way to make sure they give you the item you ask for, and there is no way to make sure a player pays your for an item as of right now.
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We may add chest shops at a later date, which would solve the trade issue.
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Did you use any of my 3 tips that I posted in the post 1.00?
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Will the IP address change or will it stay the same for the survival server?
If so please comment soon to let other people know as well!
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Will the IP address change or will it stay the same for the survival server?
If so please comment soon to let other people know as well!
I'm pretty sure itll stay the same.
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The Ip's gonna be smp.opticraft.net.
i think.
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It will be the same. Though official we'll use smp.opticraft.net, beta.opticraft.net will work as well
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What other plugins are you going to use? Are you keeping the plugin preventing explosive damage to terrain?
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iConomy added? is used for ingame money
Showcase added? Showcase is used for shops, cool ones like item on a slab and when you left click the slab you get a buy assistant telling you the buy price etc... I find it helpful and cool (It's video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCOwtReQoDQ&feature=player_embedded)
And it's permissions:
Action Permission-Node Without Permissions
Create a basic Showcase. showcase.basic Player
Create a infinite shop Showcase. showcase.infinite Operator
Create a finite shop Showcase. showcase.finite Player
Create an exchange Showcase. showcase.exchange Player
Buy from a finite shop showcase. showcase.buy.finite Player
Buy from an infinite shop showcase. showcase.buy.infinite Player
Removing a showcase of other players. showcase.admin Operator
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iConomy added? is used for ingame money
Showcase added? Showcase is used for shops, cool ones like item on a slab and when you left click the slab you get a buy assistant telling you the buy price etc... I find it helpful and cool (It's video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCOwtReQoDQ&feature=player_embedded)
And it's permissions:
We have an economy and sign shops. Read the OP =|.
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Yay finally tf2 and cso is getting boring xP
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Yeah! Can't wait!
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iConomy added? is used for ingame money
Showcase added? Showcase is used for shops, cool ones like item on a slab and when you left click the slab you get a buy assistant telling you the buy price etc... I find it helpful and cool (It's video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCOwtReQoDQ&feature=player_embedded)
And it's permissions:
We have an economy and sign shops. Read the OP =|.
You can have two shop plugins chestshop/signshops and showcase
Chestshop/signshop is not soo good I tried it and it is boring and complicated for others but showcase is much easier and shows you a virtual item on a slab to know what you are buying.
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i have seen a mod where you can showcase multiple items on a stair block...maybe you could use this instead of the slab? as it allows more items on it. heres a video of it :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bImkVIkVtk0&feature=related
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i have seen a mod where you can showcase multiple items on a stair block...maybe you could use this instead of the slab? as it allows more items on it. heres a video of it :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bImkVIkVtk0&feature=related
This is a sinlge player mod not a server plugin, so it would not work in the server as it is a new block by the looks of it (unless everyone has the mod). We are not necessarily using the slabs either, it is another suggestion.
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Awesome I cant wait for it and I was wondering when you were going to awbswer my question
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I'm working on a trading system right now, put the items in a spot, then when staisfied with the item(s) you press a ready button. when both
people are ready to trade, the items will be pushed around to the other side. Once I finish this, It could be considered as a trading place!
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What other plugins are you going to use? Are you keeping the plugin preventing explosive damage to terrain?
Yes.
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its done!
Here's the map.
http://www.mediafire.com/?l9v8xvak2l9a11u
I'll be posting a video I made soon,
since I'm posting this when were about to leave I can't post it now
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Can we use something simple for shops. I have played on too many servers where shops are so complex, with commands and whatever.
Can we do something like a sign that says:
Stone x 64
Buy
$30
*The Sign is also on a block of stone*
And when you right click on it, it takes $30 off your balance, and adds 64 stone to your inventory. Thats just an example, but I have seen many servers where you have to get in a zone, then type commands to find what the shop has (It doesn't tell you), then how much its selling it for, then finally, you can buy one.
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Can we use something simple for shops. I have played on too many servers where shops are so complex, with commands and whatever.
Can we do something like a sign that says:
Stone x 64
Buy
$30
*The Sign is also on a block of stone*
And when you right click on it, it takes $30 off your balance, and adds 64 stone to your inventory. Thats just an example, but I have seen many servers where you have to get in a zone, then type commands to find what the shop has (It doesn't tell you), then how much its selling it for, then finally, you can buy one.
If i am not mistaken that is what our market will be. One sign to sell the shown item and one sign to buy it.
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Can we use something simple for shops. I have played on too many servers where shops are so complex, with commands and whatever.
Can we do something like a sign that says:
Stone x 64
Buy
$30
*The Sign is also on a block of stone*
And when you right click on it, it takes $30 off your balance, and adds 64 stone to your inventory. Thats just an example, but I have seen many servers where you have to get in a zone, then type commands to find what the shop has (It doesn't tell you), then how much its selling it for, then finally, you can buy one.
If i am not mistaken that is what our market will be. One sign to sell the shown item and one sign to buy it.
Awesome, thanks :)
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More info will be released when it gets closer to being finished, so if you could please hold your questions until then it would be greatly appreciated.
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i have seen a mod where you can showcase multiple items on a stair block...maybe you could use this instead of the slab? as it allows more items on it. heres a video of it :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bImkVIkVtk0&feature=related
I already said about that plugin it is called showcase there is a sp and mp versions Ik it is fun and cool I hope optic adds it. :)
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More info will be released when it gets closer to being finished, so if you could please hold your questions until then it would be greatly appreciated.
Feel free to post questions/comments/suggestions here about the upcoming 1.0.0 server.
Just one more from me and its about part of your post nick "More info will be released"
Will this info tell us all available plugin features, and which ranks will be able to use certain ones?
I'm sure it will I'm just curious.
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Deleted off topic posts, and yes wratkie, we will release a whole break down of the ranks once we get everything sorted out.
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Deleted off topic posts, and yes wratkie, we will release a whole break down of the ranks once we get everything sorted out.
Sweet thanks!
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Will there be inflation as part of the economy system?
(For who don't know - inflation is when a price of a good rises or decreases mattering about how much there are in the market. If there was 1000 gold blocks on the market, and now there is 2000, the price rises)
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Will there be inflation as part of the economy system?
(For who don't know - inflation is when a price of a good rises or decreases mattering about how much there are in the market. If there was 1000 gold blocks on the market, and now there is 2000, the price rises)
A. Pretty sure it should decrease then, as there is more available? :S
B. I doubt it, apart from player based deals. It just seems like too much hassle to be honest.
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Will there be inflation as part of the economy system?
(For who don't know - inflation is when a price of a good rises or decreases mattering about how much there are in the market. If there was 1000 gold blocks on the market, and now there is 2000, the price rises)
There will not be inflation because 1. Your example is not solely inflation, you are thinking of supply and demand, and 2. the server will have an unlimited supply of blocks therefore the demand will not increase the price.
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Will there be inflation as part of the economy system?
(For who don't know - inflation is when a price of a good rises or decreases mattering about how much there are in the market. If there was 1000 gold blocks on the market, and now there is 2000, the price rises)
There will not be inflation because 1. Your example is not solely inflation, you are thinking of supply and demand, and 2. the server will have an unlimited supply of blocks therefore the demand will not increase the price.
Yeah that's what I thought.
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You are thinking of supply and demand, not inflation.
Inflation is complicated, but it basically involves cash injections into the economy, causing more money to be in circulation, which means each $ becomes "worth" less, and prices rise to compensate. This is a very simplistic explanation.
This will not happen, nor will prices change due to supply and demand, as all the shops are managed by the server - IE Infinite supply.
Once we implement a user controlled market, this will change.
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You are thinking of supply and demand, not inflation.
Inflation is complicated, but it basically involves cash injections into the economy, causing more money to be in circulation, which means each $ becomes "worth" less, and prices rise to compensate. This is a very simplistic explanation.
This will not happen, nor will prices change due to supply and demand, as all the shops are managed by the server - IE Infinite supply.
Once we implement a user controlled market, this will change.
I'm not that good in economy, but I see other servers that use a supply and demand system, I just wanted to know if you're doing it here too.
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Will there be inflation as part of the economy system?
(For who don't know - inflation is when a price of a good rises or decreases mattering about how much there are in the market. If there was 1000 gold blocks on the market, and now there is 2000, the price rises)
There will not be inflation because 1. Your example is not solely inflation, you are thinking of supply and demand, and 2. the server will have an unlimited supply of blocks therefore the demand will not increase the price.
There won't be an infinite amount, unless Relkeb took my advice on reseting nether and end every so often, I am guessing there are still boundaries, just a long way out this time. Glowstone could easily go up as there is less and less around the portal.
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Will there be inflation as part of the economy system?
(For who don't know - inflation is when a price of a good rises or decreases mattering about how much there are in the market. If there was 1000 gold blocks on the market, and now there is 2000, the price rises)
There will not be inflation because 1. Your example is not solely inflation, you are thinking of supply and demand, and 2. the server will have an unlimited supply of blocks therefore the demand will not increase the price.
There won't be an infinite amount, unless Relkeb took my advice on reseting nether and end every so often, I am guessing there are still boundaries, just a long way out this time. Glowstone could easily go up as there is less and less around the portal.
I'm sure the things in the server shops wont need to be harvested. But if player shops are made then this potential could happen to an extent.
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Will there be inflation as part of the economy system?
(For who don't know - inflation is when a price of a good rises or decreases mattering about how much there are in the market. If there was 1000 gold blocks on the market, and now there is 2000, the price rises)
There will not be inflation because 1. Your example is not solely inflation, you are thinking of supply and demand, and 2. the server will have an unlimited supply of blocks therefore the demand will not increase the price.
There won't be an infinite amount, unless Relkeb took my advice on reseting nether and end every so often, I am guessing there are still boundaries, just a long way out this time. Glowstone could easily go up as there is less and less around the portal.
the server has unlimited blocks so prices will always stay the same
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Will there be inflation as part of the economy system?
(For who don't know - inflation is when a price of a good rises or decreases mattering about how much there are in the market. If there was 1000 gold blocks on the market, and now there is 2000, the price rises)
There will not be inflation because 1. Your example is not solely inflation, you are thinking of supply and demand, and 2. the server will have an unlimited supply of blocks therefore the demand will not increase the price.
There won't be an infinite amount, unless Relkeb took my advice on reseting nether and end every so often, I am guessing there are still boundaries, just a long way out this time. Glowstone could easily go up as there is less and less around the portal.
the server has unlimited blocks so prices will always stay the same
Dang, because you can merchant off of prices that rise and fall a lot.
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Except for blocks which are not sold in the market though. They will obviously not have an infinite supply.
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Can't wait to come back on see you guys there! Hopefully il stumble upon you guys in classic.
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2012, the end of the world.... 1.8 world.
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Launch should be this weekend :).
1.8 up for download shortly as well.
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Yaay! \o/
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Awzm, can't wait! :D
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Launch should be this weekend :).
1.8 up for download shortly as well.
Sorry for stupid question, but where is download?
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Claw there is no such thing as a stupid question and the world save isnt up for download yet
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there is no such thing as a stupid question.
there is.
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Launch should be this weekend :).
1.8 up for download shortly as well.
Sorry for stupid question, but where is download?
He hasn't put it up yet. Note the word shortly.