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Discussion forum => Creative => Archives => General Discussion => Topic started by: Nick3306 on September 10, 2014, 11:03:47 pm
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A few sources are saying microsoft may buy mojang for around $2billion
http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/09/10/notch-approached-microsoft-about-rumored-mojang-buyout-says-bloomberg/
Thoughts?
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Microsoft is making a terrible decision. Their current games are decent enough, and they really don't need to add a small indie studio who made a 1 hit wonder to their list.
Minecraft was a great success, yeah. Their other games? Not so much.
Cobalt and Scrolls are small scale to say the least. 0x10c didn't even come out.
For Mojang however, this is great news for a team that really don't deserve it. If the deal does go through, I fully expect them to take the money, produce a few mediocre games, then leave as soon as their contract lets them (And probably retire).
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Microsoft is making a terrible decision. Their current games are decent enough, and they really don't need to add a small indie studio who made a 1 hit wonder to their list.
Minecraft was a great success, yeah. Their other games? Not so much.
Cobalt and Scrolls are small scale to say the least. 0x10c didn't even come out.
For Mojang however, this is great news for a team that really don't deserve it. If the deal does go through, I fully expect them to take the money, produce a few mediocre games, then leave as soon as their contract lets them (And probably retire).
They are small scale, but if you add microsofts money and expertise into the equation it, something good might happen.
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I forsee a chance that minecraft might be removed off of Android and iOS, and PS3/PS4.
I also can imagine DLCs and other money-making schemes to increase profits off of Minecraft (We only paid a one-time fee of $27, im sure they can charge us more). Perhaps multiplayer will be something you'll have to pay for. I imagine mods will become official as DLCs. So will texture packs.
With a pricetag like $2 billion, Microsoft would need to have some big plans for profit. But who knows, maybe this might have some positives.
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I forsee a chance that minecraft might be removed off of Android and iOS, and PS3/PS4.
I also can imagine DLCs and other money-making schemes to increase profits off of Minecraft (We only paid a one-time fee of $27, im sure they can charge us more). Perhaps multiplayer will be something you'll have to pay for. I imagine mods will become official as DLCs. So will texture packs.
With a pricetag like $2 billion, Microsoft would need to have some big plans for profit. But who knows, maybe this might have some positives.
They wont remove it from platforms since that would cut profits.
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They wont remove it from platforms since that would cut profits.
Touché.
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It worked for them when they bought bungie and had them produce the indy game Halo
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This is a fun ride. First no oculus Minecraft, then the EULA rules, then bukkit crashing, and now this.
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It worked for them when they bought bungie and had them produce the indy game Halo
the difference is that mine craft is already a successful game.
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I find it unfair when things like this happen. Huge companies throw large amounts of money to small companies and more or less force them to say yes. Most of the time the small company doesn't give a crap about their product and how much it means to them, they're in it for the money. 2 billion is a lot, but why throw all that work away and hand it to another company like that? Seems so silly to me.
Hope Mojang say no.
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I find it unfair when things like this happen. Huge companies throw large amounts of money to small companies and more or less force them to say yes. Most of the time the small company doesn't give a crap about their product and how much it means to them, they're in it for the money. 2 billion is a lot, but why throw all that work away and hand it to another company like that? Seems so silly to me.
Hope Mojang say no.
reports are that notch approached Microsoft about a possible deal, not the other way around. They will most likely keep most of mojang intact and maybe add a few experienced devs which they really need. I can see a few positives that could come out of a deal as well as negatives.
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I find it unfair when things like this happen. Huge companies throw large amounts of money to small companies and more or less force them to say yes. Most of the time the small company doesn't give a crap about their product and how much it means to them, they're in it for the money. 2 billion is a lot, but why throw all that work away and hand it to another company like that? Seems so silly to me.
Hope Mojang say no.
reports are that notch approached Microsoft about a possible deal, not the other way around. They will most likely keep most of mojang intact and maybe add a few experienced devs which they really need. I can see a few positives that could come out of a deal as well as negatives.
Well in that case rip. Yeah I can see how some good things could come out of it for sure.
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It worked for them when they bought bungie and had them produce the indy game Halo
the difference is that mine craft is already a successful game.
It's also a dying game. Like every game, less and less people play/buy it over time, it will end up being like those retro arcade games collecting dust in the very back corner. I don't see microsoft making any money with this, so I think it's a pretty bad move on their part.
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I forsee a chance that minecraft might be removed off of Android and iOS, and PS3/PS4.
Whatever, PC was the only good version to me anyways. But I don't see Microsoft having any chance of possibly making this money back if they ever get the deal. 2 billion dollars. 2. BILLION.
I don't think CoD has made that yet. And they release every year.
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I don't find it weird that Microsoft wants to buy Mojang, regardless if they're really worth the $2 billion. They've been acquiring companies for awhile including video game developers (like Bungie and Rare). And, tbh, I really don't care if Microsoft can get that money back with Minecraft as I'm sure they'll get $2 billion back at some point with the rest of their products.
What I find strange is that Notch has said before that he's turned down money like this before back in March on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/notch/status/448900844541726720
But now it seems he's not too shy, especially if it's true that he approached them.
I'm also concerned for what this means for Minecraft though. It wouldn't be the first time they've bought an already successful company and ruined them (Rare, creators of Banjoo Tooie and GoldenEye 007, making Kinect games...)
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I just hope they don't do to Mojang what they did to Rare. RIP Rare
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It's important to remember that it's all rumors right now. We have no idea what will happen. I just think Microsoft would want to cash in on the brand name since I'm sure they have much better developers than mojang, not that mojang is bad.
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I think they've missed a good chance. Quite why they want to buy mojang now rather than just before minecraft came out I don't know. Perhaps this seemingly unwise move implies that they have plans for mojang be them good or bad. However I do agree that there is a small risk that they could start fiddling with minecraft, but they'd still make a killing from all the new people buying it as it becomes ever more popular.
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but they'd still make a killing from all the new people buying it as it becomes ever more popular.
Minecraft is nearing the end of its lifetime from what I see. I don't know if I'm missing something but it feels like it.
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but they'd still make a killing from all the new people buying it as it becomes ever more popular.
Minecraft is nearing the end of its lifetime from what I see. I don't know if I'm missing something but it feels like it.
This could help extend its lifetime though.
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I agree nick. I'm sure it'll come with merits and disadvantages, but still - 2 billion dollars is an insane amount of money for something that is literally a computer game company. That's just me being jaded of course, and hopefully they will be able to use their [microsoft's] experience to let mojang flower again with perhaps yet another brilliant game, or better still fund the increasing development of minecraft.
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but they'd still make a killing from all the new people buying it as it becomes ever more popular.
Minecraft is nearing the end of its lifetime from what I see. I don't know if I'm missing something but it feels like it.
Idk why you keep saying this.. it is not true. Just because our server (unfortunatley) has lost players, minecraft is not less popular. More kids than EVER are playing minecraft, buying minecraft books/merch, and generally becoming hooked to the game. If you walk through any elementary school I guarantee you will find 30 kids with minecraft shirts on, and lots more who play it. (I know this from younger siblings + mentoring in elementary schools).
The decline in popularity of small, community based servers has been juxtaposed by the rapid increase in giant behemoths. The ones mojang has targeted with the EULA.
On Topic: I don't think microsoft buying mojang could hurt that much. If they don't blatantly fuck it up like some of their other ventures, I think they could potentially expand it; be it for money reasons and not actual interest in the game/community.
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but they'd still make a killing from all the new people buying it as it becomes ever more popular.
Minecraft is nearing the end of its lifetime from what I see. I don't know if I'm missing something but it feels like it.
Idk why you keep saying this.. it is not true. Just because our server (unfortunatley) has lost players, minecraft is not less popular.
I was not talking about Opticraft, just to be clear. Minecraft as a whole.
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but they'd still make a killing from all the new people buying it as it becomes ever more popular.
Minecraft is nearing the end of its lifetime from what I see. I don't know if I'm missing something but it feels like it.
Idk why you keep saying this.. it is not true. Just because our server (unfortunatley) has lost players, minecraft is not less popular.
I was not talking about Opticraft, just to be clear. Minecraft as a whole.
Ik, I was just saying that minecraft as a whole is not losing popularity. The only thing becoming less popular is small, community based servers like our own. The overall game has taken the youth market by storm. Mainly xbox console editions.
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but they'd still make a killing from all the new people buying it as it becomes ever more popular.
Minecraft is nearing the end of its lifetime from what I see. I don't know if I'm missing something but it feels like it.
Idk why you keep saying this.. it is not true. Just because our server (unfortunatley) has lost players, minecraft is not less popular.
I was not talking about Opticraft, just to be clear. Minecraft as a whole.
Ik, I was just saying that minecraft as a whole is not losing popularity. The only thing becoming less popular is small, community based servers like our own. The overall game has taken the youth market by storm. Mainly xbox console editions.
Back when I first heard Minecraft is losing popularity was shortly before it was confirmed as the best selling PC game ever.
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but they'd still make a killing from all the new people buying it as it becomes ever more popular.
Minecraft is nearing the end of its lifetime from what I see. I don't know if I'm missing something but it feels like it.
Idk why you keep saying this.. it is not true. Just because our server (unfortunatley) has lost players, minecraft is not less popular.
I was not talking about Opticraft, just to be clear. Minecraft as a whole.
Ik, I was just saying that minecraft as a whole is not losing popularity. The only thing becoming less popular is small, community based servers like our own. The overall game has taken the youth market by storm. Mainly xbox console editions.
Back when I first heard Minecraft is losing popularity was shortly before it was confirmed as the best selling PC game ever.
Yeah, and the PS2 is the best selling games console ever. How many people do you know who still play on that?
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but they'd still make a killing from all the new people buying it as it becomes ever more popular.
Minecraft is nearing the end of its lifetime from what I see. I don't know if I'm missing something but it feels like it.
Idk why you keep saying this.. it is not true. Just because our server (unfortunatley) has lost players, minecraft is not less popular.
I was not talking about Opticraft, just to be clear. Minecraft as a whole.
Ik, I was just saying that minecraft as a whole is not losing popularity. The only thing becoming less popular is small, community based servers like our own. The overall game has taken the youth market by storm. Mainly xbox console editions.
Back when I first heard Minecraft is losing popularity was shortly before it was confirmed as the best selling PC game ever.
Yeah, and the PS2 is the best selling games console ever. How many people do you know who still play on that?
Except that'd be like if that was said right before it became the best selling console.
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Microsoft buying minecraft would be good for them as a company but bad for us as players. If they don't buy mojang, they are missing a million dollar market, When you buy minecraft you are buying a unfinished game, mojang has been very nice to give us FREE updates, Microsoft could come around and go "So you want 1.9" 4.99$ for each update and I'm willing to bet many kids will fall into that trap of buying those updates, and not to mention around holidays it goes from 5$ to 2.99. This is all hypothetical but isn't that far fetched, If Microsoft were to do this would you pay for the update?
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When you buy minecraft you are buying a unfinished game, mojang has been very nice to give us FREE updates
??? When you buy Minecraft, you're buying Minecraft. Nothing more, nothing less.
Mojang have been supplying updates to keep new people buying the game and keep publicity up. Nothing to be "nice".
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Microsoft buying minecraft would be good for them as a company but bad for us as players. If they don't buy mojang, they are missing a million dollar market, When you buy minecraft you are buying a unfinished game, mojang has been very nice to give us FREE updates, Microsoft could come around and go "So you want 1.9" 4.99$ for each update and I'm willing to bet many kids will fall into that trap of buying those updates, and not to mention around holidays it goes from 5$ to 2.99. This is all hypothetical but isn't that far fetched, If Microsoft were to do this would you pay for the update?
If they charged for updates then online player bases would become fragmented. They would basically be killing their own game for no reason.
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Also, I haven't heard of paid updates becoming extremely popular. Most games don't charge for their updates.
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Microsoft buying minecraft would be good for them as a company but bad for us as players. If they don't buy mojang, they are missing a million dollar market.
They're buying it for 2 billion dollars. Buying a million dollar market for 2 billion is stupid considering 2 billion is literally a thousand times more than 1 million, aside from the fact that Minecraft is much larger than a million dollar market.
And Minecraft is not unfinished. 1.0 is considered finished and I believe that this game is finished.
Lastly, I don't think Microsoft has ever charged for an update before.
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but they'd still make a killing from all the new people buying it as it becomes ever more popular.
Minecraft is nearing the end of its lifetime from what I see. I don't know if I'm missing something but it feels like it.
Idk why you keep saying this.. it is not true. Just because our server (unfortunatley) has lost players, minecraft is not less popular. More kids than EVER are playing minecraft, buying minecraft books/merch, and generally becoming hooked to the game. If you walk through any elementary school I guarantee you will find 30 kids with minecraft shirts on, and lots more who play it. (I know this from younger siblings + mentoring in elementary schools)
Agreed.
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According to their website, 16,686,253 people have bought the game on PC.
Assuming they all got it for full price (which they didn't alpha/beta prices were reduced) that'd be $449,694,491.40
The game is available on both Xbox One/360 and PS3/4 in addition to all the merchendise they push.
They make money.
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According to their website, 16,686,253 people have bought the game on PC.
Assuming they all got it for full price (which they didn't alpha/beta prices were reduced) that'd be $449,694,491.40
The game is available on both Xbox One/360 and PS3/4 in addition to all the merchendise they push.
They make money.
Yes, but I highly doubt it is 2 billion. 1 billion, likely. Not 2.
My main concern with this deal is Microsoft. What they did to Rare is unacceptable. Hopefully Mojang doesn't bite, they can still make a lot of money with Minecraft anyway.
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According to their website, 16,686,253 people have bought the game on PC.
Assuming they all got it for full price (which they didn't alpha/beta prices were reduced) that'd be $449,694,491.40
The game is available on both Xbox One/360 and PS3/4 in addition to all the merchendise they push.
They make money.
Reports say they made 100 million in profit last fiscal year. I feel like microsoft might go the nintendo (http://wiiudaily.com/2013/05/nintendo-lets-play-controversy/) way, and charge youtubers who play the game a fee to post videos.
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According to their website, 16,686,253 people have bought the game on PC.
Assuming they all got it for full price (which they didn't alpha/beta prices were reduced) that'd be $449,694,491.40
The game is available on both Xbox One/360 and PS3/4 in addition to all the merchendise they push.
They make money.
Reports say they made 100 million in profit last fiscal year. I feel like microsoft might go the nintendo (http://wiiudaily.com/2013/05/nintendo-lets-play-controversy/) way, and charge youtubers who play the game a fee to post videos.
Now that is how you partially kill off a game instantly.
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According to their website, 16,686,253 people have bought the game on PC.
Assuming they all got it for full price (which they didn't alpha/beta prices were reduced) that'd be $449,694,491.40
The game is available on both Xbox One/360 and PS3/4 in addition to all the merchendise they push.
They make money.
Reports say they made 100 million in profit last fiscal year. I feel like microsoft might go the nintendo (http://wiiudaily.com/2013/05/nintendo-lets-play-controversy/) way, and charge youtubers who play the game a fee to post videos.
Now that is how you partially kill off a game instantly.
Wouldn't be the first time microsoft screwed over a company
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According to their website, 16,686,253 people have bought the game on PC.
Assuming they all got it for full price (which they didn't alpha/beta prices were reduced) that'd be $449,694,491.40
The game is available on both Xbox One/360 and PS3/4 in addition to all the merchendise they push.
They make money.
Reports say they made 100 million in profit last fiscal year. I feel like microsoft might go the nintendo (http://wiiudaily.com/2013/05/nintendo-lets-play-controversy/) way, and charge youtubers who play the game a fee to post videos.
Now that is how you partially kill off a game instantly.
Wouldn't be the first time microsoft screwed over a company
Yeah, we know what happened to Rare.
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;~; https://mojang.com/2014/09/yes-were-being-bought-by-microsoft/
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$2,500,000,000... Wow. Going to be interesting to see what happens, and goodbye notch.
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Am I the only person who is actually happy about this deal?
Microsoft are capable of running 24/7 stable servers, unlike Mojang.
Microsoft have real coding and art talent.
Notch hasn't done anything for Minecraft development since 1.0.0, save attending Minecons.
Mojang have developed one decent game, and I really stress the word "decent". Minecraft has an intelligent concept and a decent execution (And probably deserves most of its success). However, Mojang is really a 1 hit wonder, not some well respected studio with history.
My only concern is that Microsoft will ask Mojang to prioritise Xbox 1, but I strongly doubt that will happen. Possibly they will not release new updates for the PS3/4, but I don't think that affects any of us.
Maybe Microsoft will actually fulfil Mojang's potential.
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Am I the only person who is actually happy about this deal?
Most people are concerned regardless of the positives because Microsoft has quite a bit of experience with running video game companies to the ground.
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So this is definately happening now... $2.5 Billion dollars!
https://mojang.com/2014/09/yes-were-being-bought-by-microsoft/
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the worst has happened lads
dinnerbone notch n jeb have all left
buckle up guys
DAY 1:
microsoft bought minecraft for $2.5 bil!
DAY 2:
minecraft comes out on windows phone!
DAY 3:
minecraft discontinued on all devices apart from windows phone and xbox!
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dinnerbone notch n jeb have all left
Where are you getting this info from? Notch, yes. Dinnerbone and Jeb are still with Mojang.
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dinnerbone notch n jeb have all left
Where are you getting this info from? Notch, yes. Dinnerbone and Jeb are still with Mojang.
It's lolspeak, he's trolling.
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The way I see it, Microsoft got ripped off. They either have some amazing plan our they don't understand what made mine craft insanely popular. The development community is what mine craft owes it's success too. The way I see it, things like bukkit and stuff are just as responsible for the popularity of the game as mojang is.
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I think Microsoft will make updates better because it's hard for Mojang to add things such as the Sky Dimension and Red Dragon. They were going to add it eventually but they have a lot of things to do.
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I think Microsoft will make updates better because it's hard for Mojang to add things such as the Sky Dimension and Red Dragon. They were going to add it eventually but they have a lot of things to do.
Microsoft also has more talented developers if they choose to add to the team mojang already has.
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I think Microsoft will make updates better because it's hard for Mojang to add things such as the Sky Dimension and Red Dragon. They were going to add it eventually but they have a lot of things to do.
Microsoft also has more talented developers if they choose to add to the team mojang already has.
I agree, if you really think about it, what has mojang implemented that has been "game changing" lately? They have been adding minor features, not really making anything extensively better aside from under the hood improvements. And based on my huge drop of performance in 1.8, they failed miserably at that too.
I hope microsoft doesn't change too much or tamper with the developer community, they should just provide resources and reap the profits.
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I thought I'd touch on this whole Bukkit subject too. Mojang acquired Bukkit back in 2012, so Microsoft now own the Bukkit project. This could either mean great things can happen, or Microsoft will just drop the whole thing or never realise they actually own the project.
Mojangs biggest point was they didn't wanna hire anyone specifically for Bukkit, but Microsoft have a considerably larger amount of resources for it. I have a strong feeling this isn't going to mean anything for Bukkit, if it does Microsoft will turn it into something you have to pay for, knowing what they're like.
Let's just hope for an official Minecraft server API one day.
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I thought I'd touch on this whole Bukkit subject too. Since Mojang acquired Bukkit back in 2012, so Microsoft now own the Bukkit project. This could either mean great things can happen, or Microsoft will just drop the whole thing or never realise they actually own the project.
Mojang a biggest point was they didn't wanna hire anyone specifically for Bukkit, but Microsoft have a considerably larger amount of resources for it. I have a strong feeling this isn't going to mean anything for Bukkit, if it does Microsoft will turn it into something you have to pay for, knowing what they're like.
Let's just hope for an official Minecraft server API one day.
And with Microsoft's skill, I would expect the api to be amazing.