Cmon, it ruins the aspect of the server. People play on this server to get rich and have a lot of money.that isnt the point
i dont always afk but ive put hard work into my iron and gold farm.. and now i cant make any money of it..Hey, now you can use them for that they intended to be used for.. crafting things! Who would've guessed?
i dont always afk but ive put hard work into my iron and gold farm.. and now i cant make any money of it..Hey, now you can use them for that they intended to be used for.. crafting things! Who would've guessed?
We're talking about minecraft as real life.. but in reality its a fun game where you try to get rich...I think you've missed the point of Minecraft here....
People either want to build or pvp but others like to do a mix including making money..1. Then what are you doing on a survival server?
My aim.. to become rich and play with others.2. See 1.
Some affected some not.3. See original post.
I really don't get what damage it is causing at... all >:( >:( >:(4. See 3.
you can still sell it to other players so I don't see all the fuss
Yea, and everyone was happy with the melon farms too, yet it was changed.People where happy making money.. if people are happy then why change it?!i dont always afk but ive put hard work into my iron and gold farm.. and now i cant make any money of it..Hey, now you can use them for that they intended to be used for.. crafting things! Who would've guessed?
Cmon, it ruins the aspect of the server. People play on this server to get rich and have a lot of money.Who plays Opticraft just to get rich?
You could also just craft pistons with your iron.That also requires other matireals, Mabye lowering the price?
Just throwing this out there, i know it wont have much of an effect but still...It might cause people to donate to get in game credits then
less people with money will mean less people paying others to donate for them. I have seen multiple people (including myself) paying others for donations. Might be a bit less money to the server if there are less rich people. lol i know this is a huge 'what if'
Excellent decision.No it's not. : ( The reduced price on gold was bad enough.
I'm actually pretty surprised at the number of regular members that agree with this.UPRISE GUYS REVOLT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, this argument is pretty unreasonable. Your point is right, and i agree with it. AFKers suck just to be on opticraft to get gold and that's all they'd ever do. But what about the people who actually don't afk and work while their farms are generating resources. It made a bunch of giant farms useless. But if you could revoke your idea and replace it with an afk kicker or disable afk for 10 minutes, because whats the point of being on opticraft if you are just going to stand there in the game waiting for money to spit out of your machines.We have an afk kicker, but theres ways around it.
And selling seeds.... That's just as bad as melon and pumpkin selling…Well, It sort of is but not really, Because you can't make a wheat farm fully automatic. There always has to be someone there to place something, so you actually are doing work for the money.
hours and hours of building to create gold and iron farms now wasted. Thank you Opticraft staff! Driving away players a few at a time until the server eventually dies.
I'm done. I was originally taking a break from Opticraft, but I'm leaving for good now.
I spent 450K on an iron farm which was definitely a lot of money, and I spent hours working on my gold farm which isn't even fully completed. And this is happening after cactus was removed from the market after I had spent countless hours making one of the largest cactus farms built in the server.
I'm officially leaving. Next thing I know the whole goddamn market will be gone in one of Nick's "heavy" decisions.
hours and hours of building to create gold and iron farms now wasted. Thank you Opticraft staff! Driving away players a few at a time until the server eventually dies.Hahaha. Dont't blame staff, blame yourself. If you didnt see this coming, that's a damn shame.
I'm done. I was originally taking a break from Opticraft, but I'm leaving for good now.
I spent 450K on an iron farm which was definitely a lot of money, and I spent hours working on my gold farm which isn't even fully completed. And this is happening after cactus was removed from the market after I had spent countless hours making one of the largest cactus farms built in the server.
I'm officially leaving. Next thing I know the whole goddamn market will be gone in one of Nick's "heavy" decisions.
hours and hours of building to create gold and iron farms now wasted. Thank you Opticraft staff! Driving away players a few at a time until the server eventually dies.There's no doubt that people such as yourself put a lot of time and money into iron and gold farms.
I'm done. I was originally taking a break from Opticraft, but I'm leaving for good now.
I spent 450K on an iron farm which was definitely a lot of money, and I spent hours working on my gold farm which isn't even fully completed. And this is happening after cactus was removed from the market after I had spent countless hours making one of the largest cactus farms built in the server.
I'm officially leaving. Next thing I know the whole goddamn market will be gone in one of Nick's "heavy" decisions.
hours and hours of building to create gold and iron farms now wasted. Thank you Opticraft staff! Driving away players a few at a time until the server eventually dies.Really chief -_- Never expected you to do that
I'm done. I was originally taking a break from Opticraft, but I'm leaving for good now.
I spent 450K on an iron farm which was definitely a lot of money, and I spent hours working on my gold farm which isn't even fully completed. And this is happening after cactus was removed from the market after I had spent countless hours making one of the largest cactus farms built in the server.
I'm officially leaving. Next thing I know the whole goddamn market will be gone in one of Nick's "heavy" decisions.
hours and hours of building to create gold and iron farms now wasted. Thank you Opticraft staff! Driving away players a few at a time until the server eventually dies.Goodbye, oh and I'm sure you can see by the posts in this thread that this wasn't just my "heavy" decision. Most of staff and quite a few members support this.
I'm done. I was originally taking a break from Opticraft, but I'm leaving for good now.
I spent 450K on an iron farm which was definitely a lot of money, and I spent hours working on my gold farm which isn't even fully completed. And this is happening after cactus was removed from the market after I had spent countless hours making one of the largest cactus farms built in the server.
I'm officially leaving. Next thing I know the whole goddamn market will be gone in one of Nick's "heavy" decisions.
Maybe now would be a time to take a look at adding a new mod to the server that will create player run markets... I know this has been talked about lots in the past but maybe its an option now.
Maybe now would be a time to take a look at adding a new mod to the server that will create player run markets... I know this has been talked about lots in the past but maybe its an option now.
Maybe now would be a time to take a look at adding a new mod to the server that will create player run markets... I know this has been talked about lots in the past but maybe its an option now.
the problem with that is that the chest/sign shops (i think you are talking about those) would be spammed everywhere. a better solution would be to create a special area where you can buy some land to build a shop, but that would require coding, and at the moment we dont have a dev.
it isnt infinite work to get infinite money. it is infinite time. I would say i can make 15k in an hour from mining on an average trip. a really good gold farm will make you upwards of 50k (or even 100k from some peoples farms) an hour.Good point iron man
now getting money from mining is fine and dandy, you are working to make that 15k. afking and making 50k+ an hour after building a farm that did not take all that long to make (nether farm) is a bit cheap. say you mine for 24 hours and average 15k per hour, you would get 360000 in a day. afking at a 50k per hour gold farm for a day would be 1.2 million dollars in 24 hours. being able to make 1 5th the wealth of the richest server member in 24 hours as opposed to 360k per day is definitely skewed. if you have made an efficient gold or iron farm (or both like myself) thenyou can use them to craft items like in vanilla minecraft. i dont see the big deal :P you can still "survive" and play no problem, just with an infinite amount of gold and iron. if the market pisses you off that much, just dont use it. or mine for the very cheap protection stones. 750$ for a coal ore ps. that is only 30 ironingots sold to market (unsmelted). just my rant, stop bitching ive put as much time and money into farms as anyone and im fine with this decision.
just stock up on a lot of iron and gold and make a house or something
Maybe now would be a time to take a look at adding a new mod to the server that will create player run markets... I know this has been talked about lots in the past but maybe its an option now.
the problem with that is that the chest/sign shops (i think you are talking about those) would be spammed everywhere. a better solution would be to create a special area where you can buy some land to build a shop, but that would require coding, and at the moment we dont have a dev.
That would be ideal, if we can find a way to do it.
Having to advertise in the trade channel is quite cumbersome.
I will be removing the ability to sell iron and gold ingots to the market next sunday.
This decision wasn't made lightly and an overwhelming majority of our staff agrees with it.
I think you've missed the point of Minecraft here....
Then what are you doing on a survival server?
You say that like there's absolutely no other way to earn money. Taking away the ability to sell iron and gold hasn't physically had any impact on any farm, you can still use them for other things, you'll simply need to find other means of earning money.
...you can still sell it to other players...
Who plays Opticraft just to get rich?
And people there are other ways to get money...get over it
I don't really disagree with this plan but at this stage in the entire Opticraft lifespan, its definitely going to throw a lot of people off. Those who became super rich got lucky enough to be in a time when iron farms were a source of money. While it may be harder after this "update" to make that same amount of money in such a quick amount of time, it doesn't mean making money will be impossible. People still buy enchanted items, you can still sell your items for your own price in your own shop, etc. It's a long overdue update but just like every update that removes automatic farms, people won't be happy.
Offtopic: Let me get this straight though. Whoever is calling us a survival server is wrong. Even if we advertise ourselves as one, we are the loosest definition of a survival server. A true survival server wouldn't have an economy or a market in the first place. People would be mining all day, hiding from mobs, wearing diamond armor when they go out, making sure to sleep in a bed so they don't lose their home, no way to protect their precious builds from griefers and creepers, etc. In many areas, mobs don't spawn as often as they used to but we've managed to sort of bring back some of the mob spawning. When it comes to going home, we just use a simple command to warp there. Sleeping in a bed has completely lost its function in the survival aspect of this server. Plus we use protection stones. While you can still maintain a survival aspect with just protection stones, they're the cherry on the top of all plugins we offer to players to remove that survival feel and make you happy that none of your hard work was griefed. Survival is about the hard work, skills and effort put into the game to SURVIVE from the creatures of the night and your fellow player's griefing. Go ahead and try to make an argument that we still are a survival server but in your mind, you know that which defines a survival server is not what we're all about.
It might cause people to donate to get in game credits then
I'm actually pretty surprised at the number of regular members that agree with this.
Not only do they stretch the distance between the "haves" and "have-not's"
...for very little effort...
...they take up too much valuable space on the server and you've got to admit, they're pretty damn ugly too.
you get to know people by exchanging items
AFKers suck just to be on opticraft to get gold and that's all they'd ever do. But what about the people who actually don't afk and work while their farms are generating resources.
There's no doubt that people such as yourself put a lot of time and money into iron and gold farms.
But the fact of the matter is that no matter how much time or money you put into the farms (or anything that gives you infinite money), it no way justifies you having an infinite resource of money.
If the idea of how hard you work at something (if that's even measurable (hours of work?)) correlates to the amount of money you make, then to justify people having an infinite money source would mean that person would have to put an infinite amount of time and hard work into the farm.
Simply put, you haven't put in infinite work for the infinite money.
Also, you can still sell to others...
I don't see a rule book anywhere stating that a Minecraft survival server can't have that.Then what are you doing on a survival server?What the hell is a market and a monetary system doing on a survival server?
Check the first page on /baltop. I've never sold any iron or gold from farms to players or the market, so I don't know where you pulled that idea from.You say that like there's absolutely no other way to earn money. Taking away the ability to sell iron and gold hasn't physically had any impact on any farm, you can still use them for other things, you'll simply need to find other means of earning money.There wouldn't be a way available to make money at a rate that lets ppl compete at /baltop. If you remove iron and gold and you want to keep it fair you should wipe /baltop too and let everyone start over. Because there is no way ppl can get up to 5.5mill without ironfarms or goldfarms.
/baltop, which is an important minigame for many players, would become a waste of time and completely obsolete.
I don't see a rule book anywhere stating that a Minecraft survival server can't have that.
Check the first page on /baltop. I've never sold any iron or gold from farms to players or the market, so I don't know where you pulled that idea from.
It doesn't work like that. Of course players will want easy ways to get money, why would they vote down an easy way to get money? If I held a vote right now on whether we should give each player $1000000000 in game money, do you think people would vote it down? No. So we made the decision that we felt was best for the server.
First of all, no offence meant in any way to anyone! We all have our opinions.
I will be removing the ability to sell iron and gold ingots to the market next sunday.
This decision wasn't made lightly and an overwhelming majority of our staff agrees with it.
This should be a player decision, not a staff one. It's the players that keep this server alive, without them this server would be dead. Without staff there would still be a lot of players. (Not that I would prefer a server without staff.)
The majority must decide.
It doesn't work like that. Of course players will want easy ways to get money, why would they vote down an easy way to get money? If I held a vote right now on whether we should give each player $1000000000 in game money, do you think people would vote it down? No. So we made the decision that we felt was best for the server.
Oh, and having players donate to get money (which they have been able to do for a long time) is good because that money keeps the server running.
I would quote Lando but his post is too long it would take forever to edit.
Hey said a few times that wiping baltop would be a good way to fix this mess.
I completely disagree, that is extremely unfair to those who worked for their money. They put time and money into that. For example, Dropzone1446. He mined for hours and hours and hours, not used golf/iron farms. Fish_Luver, he donated for a lot if his money. I got my money from mining and selling statues. Just because a majority of people have a lot of money because of iron/gold farms doesn't mean everyone should have their balance wiped. Wiping baltop would truly be the end of opticraft.
Oh, and having players donate to get money (which they have been able to do for a long time) is good because that money keeps the server running.
As I stated before I have nothing against donations or rewards for those donations like disguises, /homes etc. which indeed can help keep the server running but not ingame money. People could buy their way to the top which is unfair.
I guess we could agree to disagree on this last point? ;)
You do realize in order to "buy your way to the top" you have to donate at least $420, real money mind you, to pass the current richest person...
You do realize in order to "buy your way to the top" you have to donate at least $420, real money mind you, to pass the current richest person...
And you do realize that for some people that amount means nothing at all but for others it's more than they make in a month....
That's why it's so unfair.
You do realize in order to "buy your way to the top" you have to donate at least $420, real money mind you, to pass the current richest person...
And you do realize that for some people that amount means nothing at all but for others it's more than they make in a month....
That's why it's so unfair.
You're coming across as "Ugh, it's so unfair that someone who pays to run a server each month has the cheek to reward players who help him pay"
You have to remember that this is a game. Sure, I'd love to be top of the real life /baltop, but here..? There is no reward for being the top and I think you may be more driven by your own opinion than the whole server, 99% who have no concern about not being #1.
Hell, I'd thank anyone who donated for that money, they're keeping the server I play on alive.
First off, it's very unlikely that they'd put that money towards a Minecraft server just to be the richest. (Also, if somebody is making only $420 a month, you have other concerns than playing Minecraft more than likely tbh).
Secondly, if this unlikely hypothetical situation were to actually happen, that's money towards the server. Not selfish way to be the richest. Also, if some rich guy does come along and donates that kind of money for Opti, that's his prerogative; who's gonna be like "Man, so unfair that rich guy is keeping the server alive. :/"
As I stated before I have nothing against donations or rewards for those donations like disguises, /homes etc. which indeed can help keep the server running but not ingame money. People could buy their way to the top which is unfair.
Again, I don't mean to offend anyone with my opinion.
- I enjoy playing on this server very much!
- I try to help other players, try to teach them how the game works and I still learn stuff myself.
- I don't buy from anyone, I don't sell to anyone, I'm completely selfsupporting (that means mining every block I use myself).
- I think the economy on this server is a joke.
- As long as there is a market, the term "survival" is a joke.
- As the situation is now, if someone would want to get near nr.1 on /baltop, the only proper way to get there is to build farms and sell directly to the market (which I do not do, as mentioned).
- The minigame /baltop, which a lot of people like a lot, will become a joke from the moment iron and gold are removed without wiping /baltop for a new start.
Thirdly, if the money gap is a "big and unfair difference" and nobody else has ever complained about it, then it's not a "big problem".
In other words; I don't care about the monetary system at all. I just think the changes are unfair to players who do care.
Thirdly, if the money gap is a "big and unfair difference" and nobody else has ever complained about it, then it's not a "big problem".
In that case there's no need to remove iron and gold....is there? ;)
In that case there's no need to remove iron and gold....is there? ;)
whats even the point of all this.... nick has made his mind up lol
just lock this, its pointless to talk about
In other words; I don't care about the monetary system at all. I just think the changes are unfair to players who do care.
The majority of the people who've commented in this thread do care about the monetary system and agree to this change. Not to be rude, but since you don't care about the monetary system, don't buy/sell at the market, and don't use farms, how does this effect you when, as said before, the majority of others agree to the change?Thirdly, if the money gap is a "big and unfair difference" and nobody else has ever complained about it, then it's not a "big problem".
In that case there's no need to remove iron and gold....is there? ;)
Actually, that arose from people getting rich by afking at farms; not because they're getting rich in general.
It's not like if somebody got rich from other means (like mining) that'd meaning mining is not allowed, and as mentioned before, nobody's complaining that other people are richer than them (that's just a fact of life). It's how they got rich.
Simple fact is that it's been done and there's nothing you can do. Suck it up and continue playing without it
If it doesn't affect you contain your self...
If it doesn't affect you contain your self...
Don't you worry about me, Danielle. ;)
It's just that when I see injustice, I try to defend the ones being wronged.
As I said a few times before, no offence meant to anyone. :)
It's just a damn shame for those who are affected by this.Those affected by this quite simply set themselves up. If I were you, I'd stop arguing; and unless you can come up with a 110% legitimate reason this shouldn't continue, stop instigating this debate since it's clearly not going anywhere.
It's just a damn shame for those who are affected by this.Those affected by this quite simply set themselves up. If I were you, I'd stop arguing; and unless you can come up with a 110% legitimate reason this shouldn't continue, stop instigating this debate since it's clearly not going anywhere.
I say we adopt girlluvzermac's idea the was talking to me about the other day.
I should add that those of us who spent a ton of hours and moneys making our farms did not set ourselves up for this. Rather, Nick set us up for this.
Ok, lets look at melons and pumpkins. They got out of hand. They were removed from the market...
Cacti... removed from market slightly before it got out of hand, but it was expected to get out of hand. Removed.
Hmm... What is the next farmable thing to move to... Sugarcane? Nah. Too cheap in the market. Only remaining thing is iron and gold. History showed that the farming of the other things were getting out of hand. Twice. So why were gold and iron ingots left in the marketplace when it was obvious that they'd be the next big farmed thing? We weren't setting ourselves up for this. The admins did. They waited until we put tons of effort into these farms, and now the items are being taken out of the market. This wouldn't be a big deal if iron and gold ingots were removed from the very start when it's obvious that people would move to farming them. And of course, this decisions so thinks of the player, right? Nah. More like the staff just doing what they want.
Sheesh, this is becoming as hectic as when the melons and pumpkins were removed, if not less.
Lando, if you mean no offense, you should probably learn to keep your thoughts to yourself. Reading all that made me offended by the attitude towards the actions that have been made. And all those smiles, winks, and cheesy smiles really got on my nerves… It really doesn't help me think you mean at all "no offense"
Let's keep this civilised.
Nick set us upCute, but he really didn't. We (aka staff/"the problem") litteraly watched as dozens of you built ridiculous, ugly, fun-ruining, golem-murdering farms to make money. Which basically made the whole point of the market go to complete shit. Idk the exact numbers but you know youd make hundreds upon thousands of dollars a day by making the iron farm just to brag about how your high you are on baltop. Which isnt the point of the game in the slightest bit.
I should add that those of us who spent a ton of hours and moneys making our farms did not set ourselves up for this. Rather, Nick set us up for this.This is funny because you say that I set you up for this, as if i knew the farms would get this big. We did not, you may be able to see into the future chief, but we cannot. Trust me, i've tried and failed every time.
Ok, lets look at melons and pumpkins. They got out of hand. They were removed from the market...
Cacti... removed from market slightly before it got out of hand, but it was expected to get out of hand. Removed.
Hmm... What is the next farmable thing to move to... Sugarcane? Nah. Too cheap in the market. Only remaining thing is iron and gold. History showed that the farming of the other things were getting out of hand. Twice. So why were gold and iron ingots left in the marketplace when it was obvious that they'd be the next big farmed thing? We weren't setting ourselves up for this. The admins did. They waited until we put tons of effort into these farms, and now the items are being taken out of the market. This wouldn't be a big deal if iron and gold ingots were removed from the very start when it's obvious that people would move to farming them. And of course, this decisions so thinks of the player, right? Nah. More like the staff just doing what they want.
I should add that those of us who spent a ton of hours and moneys making our farms did not set ourselves up for this. Rather, Nick set us up for this.This is the biggest piece of psychological BS that I have ever seen.
Ok, lets look at melons and pumpkins. They got out of hand. They were removed from the market...
Cacti... removed from market slightly before it got out of hand, but it was expected to get out of hand. Removed.
Hmm... What is the next farmable thing to move to... Sugarcane? Nah. Too cheap in the market. Only remaining thing is iron and gold. History showed that the farming of the other things were getting out of hand. Twice. So why were gold and iron ingots left in the marketplace when it was obvious that they'd be the next big farmed thing? We weren't setting ourselves up for this. The admins did. They waited until we put tons of effort into these farms, and now the items are being taken out of the market. This wouldn't be a big deal if iron and gold ingots were removed from the very start when it's obvious that people would move to farming them. And of course, this decisions so thinks of the player, right? Nah. More like the staff just doing what they want.
Nick set us upCute, but he really didn't. We (aka staff/"the problem") litteraly watched as dozens of you built ridiculous, ugly, fun-ruining, golem-murdering farms to make money. Which basically made the whole point of the market go to complete shit. Idk the exact numbers but you know youd make hundreds upon thousands of dollars a day by making the iron farm just to brag about how your high you are on baltop. Which isnt the point of the game in the slightest bit.
I would like to ask:That's what I need to know; if they actually use the money to build instead of to brag or as status
Does anyone on opticraft use an iron farm but then spend the money they make from it on blocks to build cool stuff? Because if you do, you have your condolences. This is the last thing you needed. For everyone else, you had your fun, now get to building.
golem-murdering farms
Unless you provide a 110% valid reason to get Nick to change his mind, there is no point trying.
What, did you expect a democracy? And really, I dont understand why youre so upset. Its just a game...if the way this server works pisses you off, no one is forcing you to stay here.Unless you provide a 110% valid reason to get Nick to change his mind, there is no point trying.
Even if we did present a valid reason, Nick wouldn't care. He's the server dictator pretty much.
What I mean by valid is a reason good enough for Nick to reconsider his actions.Unless you provide a 110% valid reason to get Nick to change his mind, there is no point trying.
Even if we did present a valid reason, Nick wouldn't care. He's the server dictator pretty much.
If you weren't blind you would be able to see most of staff and a good portion of members support this decision. But I have learned to expect this ignorance out of you by now. Now leave like you said because no one wants to listen to your ignorant comments.Unless you provide a 110% valid reason to get Nick to change his mind, there is no point trying.
Even if we did present a valid reason, Nick wouldn't care. He's the server dictator pretty much.
Honestly I agree with everything he says and enjoy listening to him, but dont agree with how he is reacting to it.If you weren't blind you would be able to see most of staff and a good portion of members support this decision. But I have learned to expect this ignorance out of you by now. Now leave like you said because no one wants to listen to your ignorant comments.Unless you provide a 110% valid reason to get Nick to change his mind, there is no point trying.
Even if we did present a valid reason, Nick wouldn't care. He's the server dictator pretty much.
Hes not even arguing the removal anymore, he is just bashing me/staff now, it's pathetic.Honestly I agree with everything he says and enjoy listening to him, but dont agree with how he is reacting to it.If you weren't blind you would be able to see most of staff and a good portion of members support this decision. But I have learned to expect this ignorance out of you by now. Now leave like you said because no one wants to listen to your ignorant comments.Unless you provide a 110% valid reason to get Nick to change his mind, there is no point trying.
Even if we did present a valid reason, Nick wouldn't care. He's the server dictator pretty much.
Hey Nick way to ruin life. I tease. Lets start off by saying "Damn, This has been a fun journey reading the sheer unfiltered stupidity that flows from the minds of some of you all, and the staff using calm cool responses to return what I see as ass kicking return swings. Way to be the bigger people here, If i still were staff I cant say I would have been polite to all you who bash people who don't get paid to put up with your shit. The staff is kick ass. Chief (there are more people who deserve this too so throw yourselves into the mix) You are king of DumbAss city. Its cool tho, no offense
See what I did right there. I made everything OK by saying no offense. Staff your killing it(in the good way). To all those complaining about the injustice do me a favor(In the words of my father the day my parrot died) Cry me a river, Build a bridge, And for the love of god get the fuck over it. This is a game. You shouldn't have an emotional downturn because a rule in a game changed. And back to Chief, You argue with the single most stupid points I have ever had the misfortune of reading. This is still a game. I pity what your life must be if your whole mindset is focused on the money you wont be making from the life you have built ingame.
That is just a short from my mind. I might compose a detailed list of why i think staff is awesome, and why a select few others should probably find a new hobby
With Love
Weirauch
Well, I guess I'll say something now.
I myself, have spent many hours on my iron farm. I have also made a large amount of money from the farm.
You would not know it bye looking at my /bal b/c one reason. I love helping others. I give most of my money away, I currently have $1. I log so many hours on this game to make sure everyone has the best experience they can have. I spend a lot of time trying to roll back old guest b/c i hear thats what ppl want. Of the last 19 hrs or so of playing, I probably spent about 20 mins actually building or playing for myself. So to sit here and read all these comments bashing staff got me a little heated. We do not get paid, and we are here for the best interest of the guest, members, and trusted players. So if you think the staff is out to ruin your exp, then I am truly sorry you feel that way. I believe this decision will greatly improve Opticraft as a whole. Keep up the good work Nick.
And this is where I will break down why I support this decision.
1.) there is a ridiculous amount of money on this server.
a.) The market was put in place as a last resort to sell to, or buy from. Thats why the buy price is really high, and the sell price is very low. Trading w/ others was always the priority. (correct me if I'm wrong Nick)
b.) Thats why I think the farms exploited the original intent of the market.
c.) By selling to the market, only more money is being poured into the economy (like printing bills w/out the resources to back it up)
d.) The countermeasure to the "new money" is no were near strong enough to keep up. (the lottery)
2.) You say you want to compete to be /baltop1, heres your chance, step up your game and EARN it. There are countless ways to earn money that doesn't involve having MC in the background as you watch TV and tap spacebar ever 5 mins... If you like competition, then compete for it. AFKing is not competition...
3.)
It's not like Nick said "hold my beer, I'm gonna take ingots off the market." He spent a lot of time in this decision and the staff channel debated it with him there and offline. I guess what I'm trying to say is. Feel free to give your opinion. but do it with at least a shred of respect. I think Nick showed respect by hearing everyone out, but instead ppl are shitting on him for making a move WE feel is best for the server.
b.) Thats why I think the farms exploited the original intent of the market.
Lando, there's a modify button. Please use it and stop double posting.
I always thought that when you post the same post twice, by accident or on purpose, that counts as a double post.the modify button alicia brought up would yield the same result.
But maybe I should have waited for someone else to post before I posted the next one?
and this topic...god this is so entertaining to not be a part of XD