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Title: Lottery on SMP
Post by: optical on June 28, 2012, 11:41:31 am
Server ip: smp.opticraft.net

We have implemented a lottery system on the SMP server.
Lottery is drawn every 12 hours, and the prize pool starts at $1000. Each ticket bought increases the pool, and each ticket costs $100.

You can see time remaining to the draw using /lottery info, as well as the current prize pool and how many tickets you have in it.
To purchase tickets you can use /lottery buy <num> where num is how many tickets you would like.

When the lottery is drawn, 3 people will win.
1st = 50% of pot
2nd = 30% of pot
3rd = 20% of pot.

Good luck!
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: Kascas on June 28, 2012, 11:49:17 am
ah the first fair lottery  8) great idee
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: bantam2 on June 28, 2012, 01:03:36 pm
Do you need to be online to win???
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: optical on June 28, 2012, 01:11:01 pm
Do you need to be online to win???
Nope, it is delivered when you are offline, and you will receive a message on login.

Also going to add command to see previous winners :)
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: Victor1261 on June 28, 2012, 02:16:56 pm
Awesome idea! Thanks for implementing it opti.
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: hennydeez on June 28, 2012, 02:49:36 pm
Nope, it is delivered when you are offline, and you will receive a message on login.

Also going to add command to see previous winners :)
Sweet! This beats having a melon or pumpkin farm, best solution for earning money. :P
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: ScottishChamp on June 28, 2012, 02:54:06 pm
Great idea guys im in!
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: FNVcourierjon(SigilStone) on June 28, 2012, 04:16:15 pm
Wow member world, second homes, now this?  Thanks SO much opti and others for all of your hard work!
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: Lema on June 28, 2012, 07:27:41 pm
This is great!
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: Mr_Mr_Mr on June 28, 2012, 08:27:36 pm
This is.... I have no comment on this... Gambling is not my thing, but this is for fake prizes so, I might as well put a few tickets in.
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: Destroy8r9 on June 28, 2012, 08:44:12 pm
Hey opti could you also put the download for The 1.8 world up
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: Mr_Mr_Mr on June 28, 2012, 08:45:28 pm
Hey opti could you also put the download for The 1.8 world up
He already did.
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: acegdl007 on June 28, 2012, 08:49:32 pm
Sweet! This beats having a melon or pumpkin farm, best solution for earning money. :P

So dumb luck beats ingenuity and work as a means of earning money.  Sounds like the millions of suckers who think they will win the PowerBall/MegaMillions jackpot in real life... LMAO.  :P
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: ViperZeroOne on June 28, 2012, 08:56:36 pm
So dumb luck beats ingenuity and work as a means of earning money.

Must... Not... Make... Smartass... Comments... Regarding... Ease... Of... Building... Auto... Farms...


Hey, at least with a lottery everyone has a chance to win.  Even a noob who only gets one ticket.
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: LordoftheBlock on June 28, 2012, 09:19:34 pm
You must ask yourself, why is Opti so awesome? Great idea, I love to gamble  ;)
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: Destroy8r9 on June 28, 2012, 09:44:33 pm
Hey opti could you also put the download for The 1.8 world up
He already did.

Where did he post it me I can't find it
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: Nick3306 on June 28, 2012, 09:57:54 pm
Dont get used to the prize pool being nearly this big, we will fix this.
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: ☣2crzy4uall☣ on June 28, 2012, 11:45:43 pm
Yeah I'd personally love to not see it, i quickly spent 110k on it. lol is there any way i can opt out of seeing it? Is it in its own channel i can turn off?



I'll be poor in a couple days lol
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: iGenerator on June 28, 2012, 11:50:12 pm
So are you saying that the 1st prize winner wont always be getting a quarter of a million dollars?
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: ViperZeroOne on June 29, 2012, 12:13:06 am
So are you saying that the 1st prize winner wont always be getting a quarter of a million dollars?

Well no, because if the high-money people start LOOSING the lottery to the low-money people then the server cash flow will eventually begin to shift.  Those low-money people will go spend their winnings, since they aren't used to having a lot of money, which will drop the total cash owned by players, thus lowering the amount that gets contributed to the lottery.
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: Nick3306 on June 29, 2012, 12:13:19 am
So are you saying that the 1st prize winner wont always be getting a quarter of a million dollars?
Yes.
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: iGenerator on June 29, 2012, 01:38:15 am
So are you saying that the 1st prize winner wont always be getting a quarter of a million dollars?
Yes.
Is  there going to be a cap on the lottery so that cannot happen?
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: acegdl007 on June 29, 2012, 01:43:00 am
Must... Not... Make... Smartass... Comments... Regarding... Ease... Of... Building... Auto... Farms...


Hey, at least with a lottery everyone has a chance to win.  Even a noob who only gets one ticket.

Yeah... my remark was a bit cynical.  But seriously, with the exception of the ethically questionable automatic farms, there's no better way to make money than by making or mining something of value and selling it.

A lottery is just luck... but it will still be fun to play! :)
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: TarynMai on June 29, 2012, 01:55:51 am
So are you saying that the 1st prize winner wont always be getting a quarter of a million dollars?
Yes.
Is  there going to be a cap on the lottery so that cannot happen?
Yes.
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: minecraft321 on June 29, 2012, 02:04:57 am
Wait who won the lottery? I was offline when it finished.

Can you please tell.

-Red
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: optical on June 29, 2012, 02:36:23 am
We haven't made any decisions on lottery caps or anything of the sort.
We'll wait and see how it plays out - I suspect the first lottery will have had a much larger prize pool then the subsequent ones, since it is a new feature and all.

Personally, I am happy with how it played out, but we will discuss it and see if there are any reasons to make adjustments, and we'll update you on it.
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: SalasCraft on June 29, 2012, 02:46:00 am
We haven't made any decisions on lottery caps or anything of the sort.
We'll wait and see how it plays out - I suspect the first lottery will have had a much larger prize pool then the subsequent ones, since it is a new feature and all.

Personally, I am happy with how it played out, but we will discuss it and see if there are any reasons to make adjustments, and we'll update you on it.

I think it was fair though. 500 something K, winner got around 250k, and so on... I think it's fine. We'll just have to see like you said how it turns out in the future.
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: Coolcrab88 on June 29, 2012, 06:56:54 am
This might sound noobish so forgive me, but who do you pay? ??? Optical?
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: SalasCraft on June 29, 2012, 07:04:26 am
This might sound noobish so forgive me, but who do you pay? ??? Optical?


You simply do /lottery buy <amount> , In amount you just put the amount of tickets you wanna buy. 10$ a ticket.
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: Coolcrab88 on June 29, 2012, 07:18:20 am
Mmhmm...    ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: TheRealFamous on June 29, 2012, 07:39:34 am
This might sound noobish so forgive me, but who do you pay? ??? Optical?


You simply do /lottery buy <amount> , In amount you just put the amount of tickets you wanna buy. 10$ a ticket.
Salas, Isn't it 100$ a ticket? Or did they change it?
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: DeeKay on June 29, 2012, 11:10:01 am
This might sound noobish so forgive me, but who do you pay? ??? Optical?


You simply do /lottery buy <amount> , In amount you just put the amount of tickets you wanna buy. 10$ a ticket.
Salas, Isn't it 100$ a ticket? Or did they change it?
No, it's still $100 a ticket. Most likely just a typo on Salas' part.
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: ivy2112 on June 30, 2012, 11:33:25 pm
This is unfair
mshour was first AND second in 1 LOTTERY how can that ???
i spend 50k :/
and didnt won 1$
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: TarynMai on June 30, 2012, 11:42:54 pm
Just saying, Mshour won three times and in this last one, he got first and second. =.=
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: optical on July 01, 2012, 08:18:08 am
Mshour has spent like $275,000 on tickets - its completly random, the more you spend the higher chance you have.
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: bhoughton on July 01, 2012, 08:23:32 am
Mshour has spent like $275,000 on tickets - its completly random, the more you spend the higher chance you have.

Holy crap! I wouldn't spend that much IRL yet alone in-game.

Opti, so the more you spend on tickets the higher chance you get on winning?
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: optical on July 01, 2012, 08:34:35 am
Yes, every ticket is equal
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: cschurz on July 01, 2012, 11:40:57 am
LOL MSHOUR WON TWICE IN THE SAME LOTTERY?

i pointed that bug out to opti as soon as i looked at the code. i didn't expect it to happen any time soon - but it has been fixed.
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: iGenerator on July 01, 2012, 01:16:36 pm
LOL MSHOUR WON TWICE IN THE SAME LOTTERY?

i pointed that bug out to opti as soon as i looked at the code. i didn't expect it to happen any time soon - but it has been fixed.
You stopped him before he would get 1st 2nd and 3rd thank you!
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: optical on July 01, 2012, 08:20:49 pm
LOL MSHOUR WON TWICE IN THE SAME LOTTERY?

i pointed that bug out to opti as soon as i looked at the code. i didn't expect it to happen any time soon - but it has been fixed.
Just to clarify since that message is misleading.

It is correct and possible to win all three prizes in the lotto.
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: Nick3306 on July 01, 2012, 09:41:43 pm
LOL MSHOUR WON TWICE IN THE SAME LOTTERY?

i pointed that bug out to opti as soon as i looked at the code. i didn't expect it to happen any time soon - but it has been fixed.
Just to clarify since that message is misleading.

It is correct and possible to win all three prizes in the lotto.
I understand that in real life you can have multiple winning tickets but doesnt this just cater to the rich players who can buy thousands of tickets?
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: Sekihara on July 02, 2012, 12:02:15 am
LOL MSHOUR WON TWICE IN THE SAME LOTTERY?

i pointed that bug out to opti as soon as i looked at the code. i didn't expect it to happen any time soon - but it has been fixed.
Just to clarify since that message is misleading.

It is correct and possible to win all three prizes in the lotto.
I understand that in real life you can have multiple winning tickets but doesnt this just cater to the rich players who can buy thousands of tickets?

Random is random. Yes buying more tickets increases your chances at winning but that's how a lottery works. I can understand preventing the same person from winning more than once a drawing, but it's not like you need to play the lottery to get anywhere on the server. All in all, I'm completely fine with the lottery the way it is if people have fun with it the system then it's working.

^^ Just me 2 cents, so I don't expect anyone to agree.  ;)
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: ☣2crzy4uall☣ on July 02, 2012, 01:48:39 am
Yeah same here its fine, I bought 110k and lost on it, not crying lol. And to all the ppl who say its unfair, dont play it then
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: optical on July 02, 2012, 01:50:11 am
I understand that in real life you can have multiple winning tickets but doesnt this just cater to the rich players who can buy thousands of tickets?

No. Each player has exactly the same odds per ticket and pays the same price per ticket. It is never a good investment to buy in the lottery - from a statistical standpoint the expected outcome is less than $100. Many of the repeat winners have actually lost money in the lottery, despite purchasing a huge number of tickets. In order for Mshour to have made any money in that lottery - his needed to win first and second to recoup his costs, and only actually made $19,000 dollars, despite receiving a payment of $119,000.

Basically - no, it makes no sense to bar people from winning more than once in a draw.
If anyone feels differently - feel free to pipe up. But please back your claims up with statistical evidence. I may have made a mistake, so do correct me if I am wrong.
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: ☣2crzy4uall☣ on July 02, 2012, 01:52:04 am
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Seems legit
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: Jettking12 on July 02, 2012, 09:51:16 pm
haha, i think i speak for most opticrafters when i say that this lottery idea is addicting. People blow crap loads of money for tickets, without being gauranteed anything. I was addicted and i hope i can win soon! 8)
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: traxex98 on July 19, 2012, 11:49:28 am
i do not have a luck  >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: iGenerator on July 30, 2012, 09:35:26 pm
yeah its not rigged i won with only buying 20 tickets
Title: Re: Lottery on SMP
Post by: RuthlessTomato on August 06, 2012, 02:19:46 am
A few months ago i had an idea like this, but with diamonds. The people that trusted me didnt play and vice versa. Good idea. And i do only get 1 ticket dont call me a noob. This is cause i only have a few thousand dollars, so i cant spend so much.